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Vanguard Questionnaire Says 100% Stock is Great Idea and Unicorns are Real

I just read about a Vanguard retirement planning calculator recommending someone put 100% of their money into the stock market. Well, 100% in any asset class is gambling, not investing.

The Vanguard questionnaire assumes many things about the future that history simply doesn’t support in terms of market risk. The past does not predict the future. Just because U.S. markets have had good runs in the past does not mean they will have those runs on your particular timetable.

The last part is important because the investment industry will often show a chart with 200 years of U.S. stock returns (or some similar very long time horizon). But these charts make a lot of assumptions:

1) That U.S. stock market history will repeat the exact same way (it won’t).

2) That any person or organization was able to capture those returns consistently (they didn’t).

No Campaign Plan Survives First Contact with the Enemy

“No campaign plan survives first contact with the enemy”

The above is a famous quote attributed to Helmuth von Moltke the Elder, a Field Marshal for the Prussian Army and military strategist. This quote has direct bearing on investing because people come up with all sorts of plans for what they think their favorite asset class will do. But when that plan enters the battle of the markets, things often go wrong.

Let’s pretend what 10% a year average stock growth over 200 years with starting investment of $1,000 would be:

$189,905,276,460.46

Looks pretty good, right? Well I don’t know of any individual that turned $1,000 into $189 Billion dollars, do you? Why not?

Ignoring the obvious that people don’t live 200 years, between Point A and Point Z on a timeline of 200 years of history you have a lot of things going on: Wars, depressions, inflations, high taxes, low taxes, government bloat, price controls, shortages, bankruptcies, trade wars, embargoes, market bubbles, market panics, etc. So while someone thinks they are going to take in their 10% a year in stock returns to easy riches, the reality is that the road is very bumpy and uncertain.

Stock Markets Don’t Care About Your Retirement Goals

In fact, I put the odds of an individual in 100% stocks capturing the historical average market returns over their lifetime at basically zero. That’s right, zero.

Why? Two reasons:

1) You’re human and your emotions are going to get in the way.

2) Stock markets don’t care about your retirement goals.

You may invest for something like 20-40 years in many cases and then retire. You may even need that money earlier for kids, emergencies, job loss, etc. So if that period is great for stocks and you make 10% compounded a year (before fortuitously cashing out before any market crash or prolonged decline of course) that’s great. But more realistically you’re not going to do that.

Chances are the stock volatility is going to rattle you so much eventually you’ll flee in terror. However even if you have nerves of steel, future market events are likely going to get in the way regardless. Crashes, prolonged declines, negative real returns after inflation, etc. These market events may get in the way right when you need your money. The market event that deals a serious blow to stocks is not going to wait around until it is a convenient time for you. No, it’s going to be a surprise as it always is.

Bad outcomes in the market can be absorbed with a diversified portfolio that is not 100% stocks. But if you’re 100% stocks? Well, you’re going to get a real shellacking eventually.

Bad outcomes in the market can be absorbed with a diversified portfolio that is not 100% stocks. But if you’re 100% stocks? Well, you’re going to get a real shellacking eventually.

Avoid Extremes in Investing

Be careful of anyone advocating 100% in any asset class, whether it is stock bugs saying 100% in stocks, gold bugs saying 100% gold, or bond bugs saying 100% in TIPS. These are all extremes and I always recommend you avoid extremes in investing. There is no asset class that is 100% safe, 100% risk free and 100% guaranteed to do what you expect it to do. It’s best to just acknowledge this weakness and develop a plan to deal with it. That plan should have you across multiple asset classes in a balanced way and those asset classes should not all be stocks.

I think putting 100% of your money in stocks is a terrible idea and will eventually lead to terrible outcomes. Vanguard should be ashamed for recommending this kind of allocation based on investor and market behavior. Me? I’m sticking with a widely diversified allocation like the Permanent Portfolio to take care of me no matter what is going on. Even if you’re not a Permanent Portfolio follower, please consider holding other assets besides just stocks.

Yeah, the new book we’re writing is going to talk about a lot of these issues. The industry constantly tries to sell people on owning way too much in stock exposure. Stocks are much riskier than people give them credit, even over the long run. Make sure whatever plan you develop for investing can survive first contact with the markets by being diversified.

How Low Can the Stock Market Go?

A theme that runs on this blog is to not take anything for granted in terms what will happen while investing. In particular, I often mention the idea that any asset can fall in price very steeply at any time and for a multitude of reasons. Stocks in particular have had a very storied history in this regard.

Wade Pfau made a post aggregating the worst stock market losses by country over the past 100 years:

How Low Can the Stock Market Go?

Here are some excerpts from his post. Check the link to see the rest:

Australia 1970-74  -66%
Finland   1917-21  -85%
1943-48  -74%
1989-91  -60%
France    1943-50  -88%
Germany   1914-31  -84%
1948     -91%
Ireland   2007-08  -75%
Italy     1913-21  -68%
1944-45  -85%
1974-77  -75%
Japan  1946     -86%
1940-47  -98%
1990-02  -70%
US        1929-31  -60%
UK        1973-74  -71%

Some of these numbers were the result of WWI or WWII for certain, but others were clearly not. There is no guarantee the markets are going to perform on anyone’s particular timetable so you gotta stay diversified. I think this chart also illustrates the fallacy of time diversification in some respects as well. The fallacy of time diversification was discussed in John Norstad’s paper:

Fallacy of Time Diversification

In essence, holding stocks for a long time does not make them “safer” as commonly stated. Just because you held a stock for 20 years does not mean it can’t drop steeply on year 21 and stay there for a really long time. Investors taking a lot of stock risk and expecting quick market recoveries after these kinds of falls can be in for a nasty surprise. If an economy turns into another Japan (-70% from 1990-2002) and they need that money for retirement there could be big trouble. You gotta stay diversified!

Hat tip to Taylor Larimore on the Diehards forum for posting the link. And thanks to Wade Pfau for posting this interesting data in one place.

 

 

Gold: Not a stock and not a bond.

Just some quick notes because the “gold is worthless compared to stocks” debate has heated up again in the news.

Let’s just get this out of the way: Gold is not a stock or bond. This is not groundbreaking wisdom, it is plainly obvious. Gold will not have interest or dividends like a stock or bond. It also will not multiply on its own if left alone like a stock or bond. Some will say that is bad.

Yet I look at an asset like gold and see hundreds of years where it has maintained purchasing power. The overwhelming number of company stocks over that time are no longer here. Heck, the overwhelming number of governments over the past two centuries are no longer here so their bonds probably didn’t pay you either.

So I own some stocks, own some bonds and own some gold. I realize each has a weakness but also has a strength. Gold does not multiply in value on its own, but it’s a heck of a good place to park bond and stock profits if you want that money to be around no matter what is going on. That alone makes it unique enough to consider owning.

The anti-gold feeling I often see is really a more modern American trait. We haven’t had a serious war inside the borders for over 150 years. The currency has been fairly trouble-free. Pretty much we’re an outlier if you look at history in terms of stability and continuity. But if you talk to people in other countries that have had currency and government problems they think not owning gold is the bad idea. Just depends on your life experiences I suppose.

If you want gold, hold it in a balanced and diversified portfolio along with stocks and bonds. If not, then don’t. But pretending that stocks don’t have bouts of mania followed by long periods of bad returns isn’t realistic either. Neither is saying that gold is worthless. The idea that gold is worthless flies in the face of human history and just isn’t true. I just accept that gold is worth something historically and figure out how I can use it as an effective tool in a diversified portfolio. To that end it has worked great and I have no complaints.

Despite my postings about gold on this blog and elsewhere, people may be surprised to hear I don’t really want to see gold go up in price.

Despite my postings about gold on this blog and elsewhere, people may be surprised to hear I don’t really want to see gold go up in price. I’d rather the stock and bond markets be doing well because they are generating real growth and value to the economy. An escalating gold price usually means economic trouble and problems for many people and nobody wants that.

But sometimes what we want and what actually happen are two different things. Because of that I own some gold along with my other assets and don’t get all religious about this stuff. It’s funny reading some of the things people write about investing. Everyone has their own bias and feelings about what the future may or may not do. I suggest trying to stay neutral and own a little bit of everything so you’re protected no matter what happens.

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